1811 UK NEWSPAPER EXTRACT. WAR WITH THE USA.

CANADA OR AUSTRALIA - WHERE WOULD YOU PREFER TO RESEARCH ?

Over the last few months , we have had cause to contact the Canadian National Library and Archives and to order copies of documents. These documents are from the period 1812-1813. They have been retrieved and copied for us . Extra attention has been paid to achieving as high a quality duplication as possible.

In the first place, a Canadian researcher, Richard LeLievre ,for free found the actual reel nos and file nos having only been provided with the names PATRICK MCNALLY and CHAMBLY COURT MARTIAL and then simply for the photocopying and mailing fee which came to $4.90 US we received app 8 pages being facsimilies of original handwritten documents of 1812. We also were refunded the  difference between the $15 we had sent  and the $4.90 they charged. They also included a free page due to having made a slight error in reel nos.

Now we attempt to acquire MELINDA KENDALLS Intestate papers from our own State Records office and here is the essence of what we have been told: They tell us that they do not operate a copying service for the insolvency files. (This is on top of NSW BDMS who have had money of ours since early 2008 and who no longer copy originals leaving us only with transcriptions which are inaccurate and do not provide the details we need . e.g. on Melinda and Basil’s marriage certificate below - not the lack of signature by Melinda. These details are NOT on transcription) Back to STATE RECORDS - who do not offer copying service. The representative of State Records informs us that Insolvency files contain a lot of financial/accounting records.

We has assumed that that would be the case and indeed hoped it would be. That is in fact one of the things in which we are interested.

The writer of the email then recommends that we use the standard copy order form ( for the service they do not provide?) Here’s the bite in it. The standard copy flat fee is $25.00  That allows for copies to the value of $5.00. The one we seek has $15.30 worth of copies on the file so an additional $10.30 would “need to be added to the Standard Fee of $25″. So $35.30 it will cost. Hello Canada ! Can we come and live with you ?

We live app 1000 kilometres from said office and operate on PhD income which could lead to our own intestate condition developing.

WHERE WOULD YOU PREFER TO RESEARCH ?

Thank You Canada. It has been a pleasure dealing with you.

As for you Sydney. Think Again.

CANADIAN NATIONAL LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/index-e.html

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BRITISH FORCES IN 1812 IN NORTHERN AMERICA

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FROM THE CALEDONIAN MERCURY EDINBURGH SCOTLAND SEPTEMBER 16 1811 ISSUE 14002

SEARCHING IN CANADA FOR POETS OF 19th CENTURY

It was in Canada that Patrick McNally was court-martialled on the 21 October 1812. Not Long after General Brock was shot and killed at Queenston. FLAMBOYANTLY. When the wonderful Canadian Library and Archives sent us the photocopies of Documents much of that was verified. In addition we discovered that he had deserted 2 years previously in 1810. Judith and Patrick had 2 children by then . William and Mary. We still do not know where they met, where they married , where the children were born. Nor do we know the WHEN of those things. But we do know they were in Canada - come to think of it we are on legend and myth and recount here - Patrick was there. We don’t have any documents as to where Judith was or Who she was or - ? the first documents we have are of her being on the Broxbornebury  Mystery here. However Canada features bigtime. So I am taking a look at Canadian poetry from the same era as Melinda over here in Australia. I’m sure there are more experienced researchers out there who know how to find marriages and births etc in Ireland , England and/or Canada. For now HERE IS SOME CANADIAN POETRY of the 19th CENTURY. 

SEARCHING FOR SAPPHO IN CANADIAN 19TH CENTURY WRTING 

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/canvers/ehome.htm

CANADIAN POETRY ARCHIVE

POEMS BY PETER JOHN ALLEN 1825-1848

 

http://www.sonnets.org/

 

http://www.sonnets.org/canada.htm

Charles Heavysege

Winter Skies

The stars are glittering in the frosty sky,

Numerous as pebbles on a broad sea-coast;

And o’er the vault the cloud-like galaxy

Has marshalled its innumerable host.

Alive all heaven seems! with wondrous glow

Tenfold refulgent every star appears,

As if some wide, celestial gale did blow,

And thrice illume the ever-kindled spheres.

Orbs, with glad orbs rejoicing, burning, beam

Ray-crowned, with lambent lustre in their zones,

Till o’er the blue, bespangled spaces seem

Angels and great archangels on their thrones;

A host divine, whose eyes are sparkling gems,

And forms more bright than diamond diadems

 

A LAMENT

Allan, Peter John (1825-184

To what shall we compare the happiness of youth?
When all things are fair unto our eyes, and the blos-
   soms of the tree of life, as yet untouched, are
   bright in rosy bloom.
When eyes of angels seem to smile upon us from the
   flowers, and the breathing of the winds are
   grateful to our lips as the kisses of the one we love.
When we wander in the cool shadow of the far-spread
   night, and quaff the streaming lustre of the moon
   and stars, as from a fountain of sparkling wine.
When we view all things by the light of a joyous
   heart, and hope all things will be as now.

To what shall we compare the happiness of youth?
While the first pain, the earliest throb of disappoint-
   ment is felt but as a thorn in a bed of roses.
Alas! the serpent pleasure attracts but to sting.
The roses of joy fade and fall away, and the thorns of
   care are yet upon the branches of life.
Lo! the winter is with us--it will be always winter
   now.  Spring comes not again to the aged.

To what shall we compare the happiness of youth?
To a star that dies on the bosom of morning, that
   sinks in the flood of day.
It is like a violet when the east wind bloweth.
Like a bark that is chased and struck down by Euro-
   clydon, the mighty hunter of ocean.
Like a lofty tower, like a beautiful tower of fine
   marble in the arms of the earthquake, dashed
   down for ever.
Such is the happiness of youth.

Poem is in the public domain..

 

MELINDA KENDALL

OLD BRITISH NEWSPAPERS 19TH CENTURY

FOR THE WEEK JULY 4-11 - I AM LOCKED AWAY LOOKING AT OLD BRITISH NEWSPAPERS ONLINE. AND WRITING ON THE NELLIBELL49 BLOG.

 

http://nellibell49.wordpress.com/

 

SOCIETY OF AUSTRALIAN GENEALOGISTS HAS PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT GALE CENGAGE LEARNING’S  OLD UK NEWSPAPER FILES AND I AM TAKING THAT OPPORTUNITY. http://www.sag.org.au/ http://find.galegroup.com/

 

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PATRICK AND MILITARY OFFENCES

QUEENSTON CANADA

 

DATA FROM “THE CONVICT SETTLERS OF AUSTRALIA ” BY L.L. ROBSON

Patrick McNally was transported for life to NSW and in fact did not receive a pardon till 1843. Robson provides statistics profiling the CONVICT SETTLERS of Australia as he calls them. As regards Patrick whom we now know documentally to have been convicted of DESERTION at Court Martial in Quebec ( at Fort Chambly)  - here are some relevant figures. Patrick and his family were in a minority group even amongst convicts and families as these statistics verify. The implications of this on a young woman of poetic disposition - well - who can tell ? Robson works on a sample of 6,131 men and women from the app 150,000 transported individuals from 1787 - 1852.

Robson states that app 60,900 men were sent to NSW . On a very loose statistical basis for the purposes of this blog and romance - multiply  by 10 -for approximate numbers.

From Robson’s sample of 6.131 individuals : ( With 60,000 being the app number of transported men to NSW )

140 were tried overseas .	2% then were tried overseas.	He doesn’t indicate as to whether or not court martials are included but it seems to be likely because military offences are amongst his sample.
155 were convicted of MILITARY OFFENCES.	2.5 %
194 were defence personnel.	3 %
1085 were between 25-30 years of age	18 %
1072 were married	17 %
2847 were Roman Catholic	19 %
1389 were Irish	23 %
15 men were tried overseas in the years 1810-1819 and from 1787-1852 only 140 were tried overseas.	2 %
1360 of the men had no previous convictions
37 of the 140 men tried overseas received life
106 of the 194 defence personnel were tried overseas
30 of the 140 men tried overseas were between the ages of 25-30
11 of the 140 men tried overseas were married
30 of the 140 men tried overseas were roman catholic
27 of the 140 men tried overseas were born in Ireland
No men were transported for military offences before 1800.  4 were transported between 1800-09.
28 OF THE 155 MEN TRANSPORTED FOR military offences  were sentence to LIFE
91 of the 155 men transported for military offences were tried overseas
154 of the 155 military offences were connected with defence		the other being a transport matter
33 of the 155 military men were between 25-30
12 of the 155 military men were married
3399 of the 6131 sample were sent to NSW		the others being sent to Van Diemens Land
between 1810-19 , 545 out of 662 male convicts were sent to NSW		“

 

 

 

 

 

MELINDA KENDALL

PATRICK MCNALLY AND HIS COURT MARTIAL

We have been waiting for several excited months for a package from Canada. Two, in fact. Almost daily, Izzy has been down at the local Village Store Post Office, politely enquiring as to the whereabouts. Canada assured us they had been sent  and that it takes a long time for a parcel to get from Canada to Australia. Took almost as  long as the 19th century ships but today they arrived. One is a fine book - SELECT BRITISH DOCUMENTS OF THE CANADIAN WAR OF 1812. VOLUME I.  Edited with an introduction by William Wood. A nice thick red hardback to add to the tomes we are already ploughing through.  The second parcel contained details of the COURT MARTIAL OF PATRICK MCNALLY IN 1812.

From the CANADIAN LIBRARY AND ARCHIVES.

BRITISH MILITARY AND NAVAL RECORDS.

At a General Court Martial held at Chambly the 21st day of October 1812, John Moore Private Soldier in the 103 Regiment was arraigned upon the following charge. Viz:

       ” Desertion from the Camp at Blanifindy ? on or about the 28th of September last. “

        Upon which charge the Court came to the following decision.

        The Court having heard and examined the information exhibited against the Prisoner together with his defence is of the opinion the John Moore Private Soldier in the 103rd Regiment of Foot is Guilty of the Desertion laid to his Charge and doth therefore for the same adjudge the said John Moore to receive Eight hundred lashes to be inflicted in the usual manner.

        The Commander of the Forces approves of the above Sentence and directs that it may be carried into execution at such time and place as Major General Rothenbury ? may appoint. G.C

        At the same General Court Martial Joseph Montgomery and Patrick McNally Privates in the 100th Regiment were arraigned upon the following charge - Viz. 5

        ” Desertion from the said Regiment , said Joseph Montgomery on or about the Month of September 1809 and the said Patrick McNally on or about the month of February 1810 , upon which Charge the Court came to the following decision -

        ” The Court having heard and examined the information exhibited against the Prisoners Joseph Montgomery and Patrick McNally Private Soldiers in the 100th Regiment of Foot together with their defence, is of the opinion that they are Guilty of the Crime laid to their Charge and therefore for the same adjudge the said Joseph Montgomery and Patrick McNally to be transported as Felons for Life “

        The Commander of the Forces approves of the above sentence and directs that the Prisoners Joseph Montgomery and Patrick McNally be sent to Quebec to be there kept in Confinement until an opportunity offers to send them to England in order that their Sentence may be brought into effect. ( Signed ) G. Baynes ? 

 

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Jervis MULLEN / MULLIN 100 regiment of foot

http://www.bytown.net/mullenjervis.htm

Just a taste of the vast quantity of research and data on the BYTOWN OR BUST SITE.

The information provided here is directly from the genealogy book, Who's Which by
Reby (Johnston) Dobbs.  It is her words that are typed here.
**JERVIS MULLIN**
Early in the Spring, 1812 , His Majesty's 100 Regt. of Foot embarked for Canada.
There were tears in the eyes of many as the troops marched on board - they were l
eaving the land of their birth, perhaps to return no more.  There were no tears
in the eyes of Private Jervis Mullin, late of Arboe, County Antrim.  Unknown to
all but two or three conspirators - well disguised in a private's uniform, marched
Private Mullin's sixteen-year-old-wife!