MARY AND WILLIAM MCNALLY AND THEIR LAND GRANTS

According to Mrs Hamilton-Grey,or,as Izzy calls her Fotherington-Smythe , William and Mary received land grants at Bellambi. She claims that these are in some way associated with their being born in England. They are the eldest two children and as yet we haven’t found evidence of the grants nor of what they were associated with. Mrs HG speculates on the possibility of their being connected with the Military Service of their father Patrick. Other possibilities which have so far arisen are:

• THEY MIGHT BE THE CHILDREN OF A FORMER MARRIAGE OF JUDITH. E.G AS MCDERMOTT
• THEY COULD BE FAMILY GRANTS
• THIS MIGHT BE A COMMON OCCURRENCE. EG. IN THE CASE OF THE BELLS OF TWEED WHERE 2 SONS AND ONE SISTER RECEIVED GRANTS WHILE VERY YOUNG.

Below is an extract from BACK TO BELLAMBI AND CORRIMAL. 1980.  by SYD LONG. ( This is from a photocopy whose origins I do not know. Apologies right now if used without permission and appreciation to whoever passed it on to us )

In this article , it says that JAMES MARTIN was granted the 50 acres in 1830. James was the husband of Mary. If Mrs HGs facts are correct then James claims the land which was his wife’s, sells it and leaves her never to be seen again.  I shall add some of her writing which includes information gathered locally and from Elders of the Area.

IS THIS THE TIME AND PLACE MELINDA WRITES OF IN HER POEM: BELLAMBI’S LAKE?  The time when the McNallys have at least 100 acres of land in what is reputed to be a beautiful place. After servitude and criminal investigations - does the McNally family come here and stand before a future they cannot yet envision ?

 

BELLAMBI LINKS

• THE BELLAMBI LIGHT
• PLACE NAMES OF WOLLONGONG
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wollongong,_New_South_Wales

• Colina. Schooner, 54 tons.Timber carrier, operating out of Sealer’s Cove, Wilsons Promontory, 1840s, 1850s. Lost at the mouth of the Wagonga River, NSW, 1865. [LWP]
  In June 1853, capsized in a squall at Geelong, drowning a young lad of eleven (or perhaps fourteen). [WPP],[LC]
  In 1860, almost wrecked at Bellambi, NSW: SHIPWRECKS.

• http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Illawarra:Line.htm: RAILWAY STATIONS

MUSTERS AND CENSUSES AND ARCHIVES ! AAH !

NEW ENGLAND REGIONAL ARCHIVES - ARMIDALE.

THIS IS THE HERITAGE CENTRE. UNIVERSITY OF NEW ENGLAND. C.B. NEWLING CAMPUS. ARMIDALE NSW. 2351. TEL. 02 67736555

FROM THE FILES AT THE CLARENCE  HISTORY SOCIETY AND UNE REGIONAL ARCHIVES WE HAVE SOME MUSTER AND CENSUS DETAILS. Mr William Oates in Armidale brought us in from the cold of Armidale in Winter and introduced us to the Archives held there as well as explaining what he could and accessing files for us. William told us that Armidale and Grafton had a strange relationship. Finding a way from the New England down to the Clarence created an interesting dynamic then as it does today.  William took us upstairs to the Stack. It included a 15th century document found in a shearing shed on the New England. He wished us well on the Clarence and we had hoped to find ledgers or station books for Gordon Brook or Bushy Park which didn’t happen - YET. We were however able to access , in both towns , various papers , books and documents. Includijng the Musters and Census. McNally turned out to have even more spelling variants than we had so far considered. 

• 1814 MUSTER - JUDITH MCANNALLY, BROXBORNEBURY, 3 CHILDREN , WIFE OF P MCNALLY.

 

• 1822 MUSTER

 

MCINNALTY,PATRICK	TL	SURRY I	LIFE	COUNTY GAOL SYDNEY
MCNALTY, JUDITH	CF	BROXBORNEBURY	WIFE OF P MCNALTY	WINDSOR
MCNALTY, MARY  15	CF	BROX		WINDSOR
MCNALTY, WILLIAM  12	CF	BROX		WINDSOR
MCNALTY, ELIZA  10	CF	BROX		WINDSOR
MCNALTY, MATILDA 6	CF	BROX		WINDSOR
MCNALTY, SARAH 3	CF	BROX		WINDSOR

 

• 1823 MUSTER

MCNALTY, PATRICK ,	TL	SURRY I 1814	LIFE	GOVT SERVANT TO WIFE
MCNALTY, JUDITH	CF	BROXBORNEBURY 1814	HOUSEHOLDER	KENT ST SYDNEY
MCNALTY, MARY  17	BC		CHILD OF JUDITH	KENT STREET SYDNEY
MCNALTY, WILLIAM  15	BC		“	“
MCNALTY, ELIZA  12	BC		“	“
MCNALTY, MATILDA  9	BC		CHILD OF JUDITH SERVANT	WITH REV MR HILL
MCNALTY, SARAH  5	BC		“	KENT STREET SYDNEY
MCNALTY, JOHN  2	BC		“	KENT ST SYDNEY

 

• 1825 MUSTER ? MCANNALTY PATRICK EMPLYED BY UNDERWOOD SYDNEY ?

 

• 1828 CENSUS

MCKNALLY, PATRICK F45	GS	SURRY I 1814 L	C.	LABOURER	KENT ST SYDNEY
MCNALLY MARY 19	CF	BROX 1814	C	HOUSEKEEPER JAS MARTIN	KENT ST SYDNEY
MCNALLY MATILDA 11	BC		P	WITH REV HILL	CASTLEREAGH ST SYDNEY
MCNALLY WILLIAM 18	BC		C	AT PATRICK KEIGHRAN	AIRDS
MCNALTY 40	GS	SURRY I 1814 L	C	CARTER THOS BARKER	KENT ST SYDNEY

MCNALLY FAMILY

We are seeking any information on the MCNALLY family.

		PATRICK MCNALLY 1787-1858	JUDITH/JULIA KILFROY/ MCDERMOTT
MARY MCNALLY 1807-1857	WILLIAM MCNALLY 1810 - 1875?	ELIZA MCNALLY 1814-1893?	MELINDA MCNALLY 1815-1893	SARAH MCNALLY 1820-1892	JOHN MCNALLY 1824-1876

 

 

 

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MELINDA’S father Patrick Mcnally is recorded as being born in ROSCOMMON Ireland in 1787. Who were his parents? Is Judith also from Roscommon ? Did he volunteer for the Army or was he persuaded into it ? He joined the 100 Regiment which was sent to Canada.

WHAT HAPPENED IN ROSCOMMON ?

ROSCOMMON MANOR HOUSE. BUILT 18TH CENTURY

ROSCOMMON SITES

• http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/index.shtml 
• http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlrosco/

 

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WHO ARE THESE KILFROY/MCDERMOTTS ?

Melinda’s mother is elusive. We have the name JUDITH and several primary sources for JUDITH MCNALLY. Secondary sources tell us she was JUDITH KILFROY MCDERMOTT. Was one of these her maiden name? Was she married previously? KILFROY is as rare as a name as is  being acknowledged as a  a viable 19th century female poet in the 21st Century. More invisible and lost women. WHO WAS THIS WOMAN WHO BORE 2 CHILDREN IN CANADA PRE 1812 TO HER SOLDIER HUSBAND ; WHO RETURNED TO ENGLAND WHEN HE WAS COURT MARTIALLED AND CONVICTED AS A DESERTER AT THE CHAMBLY COURT MARTIAL IN CANADA : SAILED IN CONVOY ON THE BROXBORNEBURY WITH THE SHIP ON WHICH HE WAS TRANSPORTED TO NSW IN 1814 HAVING BORNE A 3RD CHILD ELIZA IN ENGLAND. WHO WAS THIS WOMAN ? HER HUSBAND PATRICK MCNALLY JOINED THE ARMY IN IRELAND AND WAS BORN IN ROSCOMMON. MCDERMOTT IS a common Roscommon Name as is Kilroy and other variants . Was Judith born there? Did she marry there? Was she married to another soldier? Was her family already in Canada or Newfoundland ? There is a lost story here and any threads would be welcome.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/KILROY/2002-05/1022052991

At Last - something with some resemblance to the names we are looking for . Its all in Roscommon. Later  than the times we want - and without the supposed F in KilFroy - DOES ANYONE REALLY KNOW WHO KILFROY IS ?

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MELINDA KENDALL

EARLY SETTLERS OF CASTLEREAGH

http://www.simplyaustralia.net/?p=34

ROOTS WEB RE PATRICK AND JUDITH

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/LONDON/1999-04/0924816792

On roots web there is one article written in 1998 and responded to in 1999. Essentially the content is

Patrick McNALLY (born Ireland) was court marshalled from the 100th
> Regiment in Chambly, Canada c1812. He was later transported to
> Australia on the ship ‘Surrey’ 1814. He married Judith KILFROY c1808,
> their children - Mary c1808 & William c1810 born in Canada also possibly
> Eliza c1812.
>
>We need to find enlistment if possible to find native place and
> birth/baptism.

The research is by a lady named Maureen and a Researcher named Trevor responds.

It’s just possible that there will be records of William&Mary’s
births.The GRO Chaplains Returns of Marriages records started in 179x
(where x=?3). However, as the 100th Regiment of Foot was a Canadian
regiment, maybe they weren’t included, I don’t know.

Some UK record repositories/libraries (?& LDS) have these on fiche. Try
SKS.

I have sent emails to both but its a long time since the rootsweb article and they haven’t responded . perhaps someone connected will see this and be able to help.

We know Patrick McNally was born in Roscommon in app 1788. We don’t know where the KILFROY originates from. Nor do we have the marriage details. Were they married in Ireland or Canada. Canadian sources have suggested strongly that all 100 Regiment were already in Canada in 1805 way before the marriage would have taken place in 1808.

IF YOU KNOW ANY FURTHER DETAILS WHICH WOULD HELP WITH THIS - WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. 0414627125 OR pnk918@mac.com
>

BROXBOURNEBURY, SURREY I

Ship: BROXBORNEBURY
Name of convict: Ann Lord and daughter Ruth
Type: ship Class A1 C1 D2
Tonnage: 720 (1814); 751 (1840-43)
Guns: 4
Dimension: 20’ draught
Materials: sheathed with copper over boards
Registered: London
Home Port: London
Master: Thos Pitcher Junior
Surgeon: Colin McLachlan
Where built ?: Gravesend / River Thames, 1812
Sailed: 22nd February 1814 from England
Arrived: 28th July 1814 – taking 156 days
What else did it carry: merchandise
What did it carry on return voyage: coal

Leaving on Tuesday 22nd February 1814 the Broxbornebury sailed in
company with the Surrey.
On board were 120 female convicts (some with children); twenty-eight
free families, several well-to-do passengers and a crew of
seventy.Thirty five of these female convicts had been travelling since
12th November 1812 aboard The Emu which was hijacked in the middle of
the Indian Ocean.

The Surrey, with 200 male convicts, marine guards and crew on board
separated from the Broxbornebury early in the voyage, calling at Rio on
12 April with “gaol fever” or typhus aboard. Departing Rio on 21 April
with the typhus became even more virulent It resulted in a death toll of
51 convicts, guards and crew including the Captain of the ship, the
First Mate, the Second Mate, the boatswain, the ship’s surgeon, six
seamen and four soldiers.

The Surrey was off Shoalhaven in late July when the Broxbornebury
rejoined her. Without anyone to navigate the ship, the Captain Pitcher
transferred a volunteer on board the fever ridden ship, to navigate it
into Port Jackson. Once inside the Sydney Heads on 27 July 1814, after a
voyage of 156 days, the ship was quarantined on the northern shore of
the harbour and the many remaining sick treated in tents erected as a
temporary hospital the beginning of the North Head Quarantine Station.

Only 2 of the female passengers on the Broxonbury died in transit. The
stories of the female convicts from the Broxbornebury are many and
varied and well recorded in many sources especially by

Portia Robinson in The Women of Botany Bay, Sydney 1877 and
Elizabeth Hook in Journey to a New Life: The Story of the ships Emu in
1812 and Broxbornebury in 1814, Including Crew, Female Convicts and Free
Passengers on Board. Minto 2000

Ann and Ruth continued to have eventful lives in NSW, however Ann, age
81, was burnt to death when her dress caught fire while she dozed in
front of daughter Elizabeth’s fire

JUDITH KILFROY MCDERMOTT MCNALLY

• JUDITH KILFROY MCDERMOTT MCNALLY AND THE BROXBOURNEBURY

• Castlereagh Area, Upper Castlereagh, NSW

JUDITH MCNALLY GRANTED LAND 1818 ?

Photographs:	None
List:	Register of the National Estate
Class:	Historic
Legal Status:	Indicative Place
Place ID:	101338
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